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Here is Thomas Drake speaking at the National Press Club back in March of this year. This is old, I know, but I was not aware of his speech and following Q & A. This is one of the first NSA whistle blowers that worked as a senior executive for many years. He spoke about his experience in the agency, the process in which he tried to legally whistle blow about the illegal activity (at the time) our government was partaking in, the espionage act, his colleagues, how the classified information system is supposed to work, and advice to fellow whistle blowers. No matter your political affiliation, this is a must watch:

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Originally posted by empovsun
Here is Thomas Drake speaking at the National Press Club back in March of this year. This is old, I know, but I was not aware of his speech and following Q & A. This is one of the first NSA whistle blowers that worked as a senior executive for many years. He spoke about his experience in the agency, the process in which he tried to legally whistle blow abou ...[text shortened]... our political affiliation, this is a must watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wp2BGLMqDM
I think that the whistle blowing is over. People pretty much know that the US cares nothing about the rule of law, especially with goons like Obama at the helm. He even ignores his own laws he passes like Obamacare by giving exemptions to "special" people.

It is now all about control and power and crushing your adversaries. Then again, perhaps it always has been. That's just politics and human nature. ๐Ÿ˜ž

Then again, with our fabulous new "free" health care, who the hell cares man? ๐Ÿ˜ต

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Originally posted by whodey
I think that the whistle blowing is over. People pretty much know that the US cares nothing about the rule of law, especially with goons like Obama at the helm. He even ignores his own laws he passes like Obamacare by giving exemptions to "special" people.

It is now all about control and power and crushing your adversaries. Then again, perhaps it always ...[text shortened]... ature. ๐Ÿ˜ž

Then again, with our fabulous new "free" health care, who the hell cares man? ๐Ÿ˜ต
its not free you zoob, its affordable, you know the difference right?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
its not free you zoob, its affordable, you know the difference right?
Affordable for whom exactly? Have you seen the numbers? Anyone who couldn't afford health care before, is in the same boat now. The only difference is that the government will now punish those who do not 'buy' their own health care now. The top analyst even say that it will be cheaper to pay the fine than it will be to purchase this 'affordable' as you call it, health care. My healthcare for my family will go up by almost $200 a month just on my premium, that doesn't include the extra out of pocket money I have to pay now, that 'was' covered before.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
its not free you zoob, its affordable, you know the difference right?
These folks aren't finding it affordable.

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The more you make the more you can afford to pay.

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Originally posted by boonon
Affordable for whom exactly? Have you seen the numbers? Anyone who couldn't afford health care before, is in the same boat now. The only difference is that the government will now punish those who do not 'buy' their own health care now. The top analyst even say that it will be cheaper to pay the fine than it will be to purchase this 'affordable' as you call i ...[text shortened]... that doesn't include the extra out of pocket money I have to pay now, that 'was' covered before.
perhaps but no one i have ever heard has claimed that it is free, except whodey, but hes emotional, its not free ๐Ÿ˜€

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Originally posted by Sleepyguy
These folks aren't finding it affordable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ikgQCKilw
youtube, that unbiased representation of reality, the fact is, no one has said it was free, no one has claimed it was free, ever! you can argue that its not affordable, but its never been free.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
youtube, that unbiased representation of reality, the fact is, no one has said it was free, no one has claimed it was free, ever! you can argue that its not affordable, but its never been free.
That YouTube video was of a local news report with interviews of people, in their own words, saying that they are getting hammered by increased premiums, and lower income from having their hours restricted, all caused by Obamacare, which you just got done saying is "affordable." One woman says she now has to choose between paying for her family's food or health insurance.

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Originally posted by Sleepyguy
That YouTube video was of a local news report with interviews of people, in their own words, saying that they are getting hammered by increased premiums, and lower income from having their hours restricted, all caused by Obamacare, which you just got done saying is "affordable." One woman says she now has to choose between paying for her family's food or health insurance.
well, she'll be skinny and healthier ๐Ÿ˜€

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
well, she'll be skinny and healthier ๐Ÿ˜€
I don't think you should be lecturing anyone on unbiased representations of reality, or any kind of reality.

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Originally posted by Sleepyguy
I don't think you should be lecturing anyone on unbiased representations of reality, or any kind of reality.
beeb! beeb!

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
well, she'll be skinny and healthier ๐Ÿ˜€
Not if it means she'll have to buy cheaper food. Cheap food is high carb/fructose syrup food which makes you fatter.

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Originally posted by Eladar
Not if it means she'll have to buy cheaper food. Cheap food is high carb/fructose syrup food which makes you fatter.
Maybe that's why the homeless are fat.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Maybe that's why the homeless are fat.
Many homeless are fat, at least around here.

Many are drug addicts and look wasted away. Homeless are not a monolithic group.

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